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🙂 So true – I related to the fact that we sometimes use the Bible as a textbook. I am slack with prayer. Thanks for the kick!
Sometimes when I do pray for people specifically and I use the Bible verses as a template (ie Pauls prayers but putting in peoples names..) I think – wow that it a neat prayer – I want some of that too and have to include so many others in the prayer including myself!🙂 Mari is looking at my study. It is in its raw form. I am off work on Tuesday – maybe I could edit it a little more and then Mari could put it up here ‘as is’. Not as conclusive but for us all to add comments to and nut it out together. Personally, I feel it is all about women being submissive to their husbands as their ‘head’. I think in the church maybe some men were under the headship of their wives…. Anyhow I will get it done and you can study it out also with us.
Mari – that sounds awful. Could you have been bitten by anything? Or maybe you did something when you fell. Your eye would have been so sore that you probably didn’t feel your hand until that pain started to reside.
Exciting things are happening at work. I have contacted a local Baptist minister and he along with other people in his church are willing to come in do ‘one on one’ pastoral visits. As I am the volunteer coordinator I can arrange this. He has tried coming in for years to do this, but his offer wasn’t taken up. So my phone call was an answer to their prayer. (I am responsible for volunteers so in this role I can arrange for pastoral visitors). It has given two new ladies and their family comfort so looking forward to finding others in the home who need it. Please pray as I am sure there will be a spiritual battle happening over this.
Through this, I am meeting all the Christian residents which is lovely. The pastor mentioned one lady who was a Christian and I knew who she was as she kisses me good morning and good night every day I work! So we already had a special connection.Yes – there is a study in angels alone – they were so important to the Jews. I think we ignore them as I don’t know how ‘active’ they are now? But really they must be very important as God created so many of them. Would be good to listen to a Jewish sermon on angels to understand their roles more.
I have sent my draft study on to Mari :).
Hi – you must have written all this while I was sleeping 🙂
The couple didn’t turn up to the study – she has some big struggles so I will contact them this week to see all is OK.
I have studied this topic out for days. I don’t totally agree with Justin on this one but do as well. He seemed to skip over it a bit but empathised what needed empathising too. I am writing a study on it for us all. I thought we could all read it and change it around and study it out. But basically, I study it in relation to Acts 18 – the period in which it was written. Greeks and Jews were worshipping together beside the synagogue. The church had disorder and conflict and Paul was trying to bring in some ‘order’. A God-ordained order as maybe the Greeks came from a very liberal cultural and the women asserted control over their husbands. (Note the part where it says for a man to pray with his head ‘covered’is shameful)…
Anyhow, I’ll send it on to Mari. I think it will clear up a few questions. It has been a great study to do.
Please, can I have any discerning comments on this? Study this Sunday night (Saturday in US).
Also after reading and reading it seems Paul was addressing both Jews and Gentiles in this church. From reading it seems the Corinth church had a whole mixture of Jewish Christians and Greek Christians and even some of Peter’s followers joining in and the freedom shown by the gentiles simply would have been too much for them. So he is bringing in a Jewish custom (Numbers 6;18) to show everyone that women are to be under headship as this is the correct order since Genesis. However, the covering instruction might not have been necessary if they gentiles women and men from Corinth acted appropriately to God’s ordained order – since Genesis. By the sounds of it they might have come out of a pretty wild culture and continued with some of its cultures within the church. Which in turn would have caused chaos and distress for the Jews.
I love this study series. It is so spiritually powerful and exciting thinking about the armour we have been given and how important it is to put it on. Someone I am talking with recently has little faith and is struggling. I suggested she pray for it and get more into the word of God but now I see I should have suggested she also take it up daily as a shield – otherwise, she may become shipwrecked! What an awful thought. Interesting that a good conscience is put in this statement too. Some people like the ‘saved by grace alone’ doctrine because it gives them ‘freedoms’ their ‘conscience’ might be telling talking to them against. If they go against their conscience and loss faith in God’s word it would be a spiritual battle and a subtle one.
Wow, that is a good thought. That sometimes it may be the work He is doing in us. I do see my work as a form of ministry – both to the residents and workers. I will answer when I can but some answers need time to elaborate on and they all know now that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters.
I just love this site – it is my fellowship life-line. I laugh at the thought that it is just you and Emmie in your church – all of us in SWORDS are part of the Montana ‘church’. The increase is the encouragement we get being able to ‘speak’ with fellow grace believers in ways we never could before. So be encouraged my sister in Christ.
Thanks, Mari – after the lunch break I spoke about in the ‘Chat’ section this was like an injection of encouragement. Mind you all through the anti-God discussion I was aware I had the armour of God on. I am befriending one of the main critics and hope to have opportunities to talk with her. It is difficult if people don’t think for themselves and even if you give them a clear answer to their criticism they will jump on another and it’s too difficult to explain in a ‘sound-bite’. For example, at that lunch break, they were all asking how did people come for Adam and Eve having ONLY 2 sons and one killed the other…. I explained that the bible speaks about 3 sons and that also says they had another sons and daughters. Straight from this ‘major sticking point’ being answers was – well that’s incest and the bible tells us we can’t do that… Everyone joins in… So hard to break in and explain genetics and perfection in that atmosphere of ridicule and time restrictions. Also when so many other things are being laughed at. Hence, in the end, I remained quiet – knowing there is a time and place.
Love this study – will read it again
Love it, Mari – love the armour of God. After reading this the other day I put it on mentally as I had a challenge ahead of me and I sailed through the challenge which had a better than expected outcome.
AMEN I love all the spiritual blessing – better than physical ones ultimately. I love how BY GRACE ALONE we are saved – and that we no longer have to go through the Jews. That we have eternal life simply by having faith in what Jesus Christ did for us. What a spiritual blessing – eternal life – new creature, part of the body of Christ, co-heir with Christ, The holy spirit in us as a comfort and guide. Access to enlightenment through the reading of the bible…. What an incredibly loving, gracious, merciful heavenly father we have.
Hi Angela
I don’t think we have chatted before. Welcome to the conversation.
Basically, we don’t look for signs and will not know when the rapture will happen.
As we are living in the period of mystery we will not see the signs but I understand many people like looking for them as it is exciting but only God knows.Thanks, Mari. My husband and I are continuing to try to work out what to say to people when they ask us what we believe. Knowing what we believe and going through them one by one like you have is so important and very helpful. I am going to see if I can start helping non-dispensational Christians by starting with something about what we have in common before these steps. IE saved by grace alone. Most people would believe this statement in theory. So when you later say and NOTHING else they can only agree. When they add the importance of works/baptism/obedience doctrine we can ask why? So instead of looking like we are saying something different, we aren’t, we are sticking with the initial statement that we agreed on and they are the ones deviating from it.
Looking forward to the next recap.🙂 We are reading through Acts again as a family after dinner. A couple of nights ago we read about the day of Pentecost and it seemed to hit us all as a family ‘wow they didn’t ask them to repent for their general sins (listing past sinful things that they can remember) but the sin of killing Jesus’ and that our salvation message was clearly missing. We spoke about how Peter was really accusing the Jews of killing the Messiah at Pentecost not giving a ‘starting a loving new church’ message. We have gone through Acts a few times over the years but aways go back to it as it holds to key to understanding the bible rightly divided. It is a joy to see more and more in it each time we read it as a family. It was great to read the study Mari.