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March 14, 2015 at 8:25 pm #4671Mari – AdministratorKeymaster
GRACE AMBASSADORS
MINISTRY UPDATE
March 14th, 2015Having Church Communion
Tomorrow our church celebrates communion.
By church I mean our local group of saints that gather for the intended purpose to see souls saved and saints edified. A church is not merely a Bible study.
By celebrate I mean rejoicing together in the Lord that made us partakers of the body of Christ. Celebration does not include any bitter reflections like the Passover meal did for Israel.
By communion I mean our common union with the Lord Jesus Christ according to the fellowship of the mystery of Christ. Our communion is not with a piece of toast or a shot glass.
Communion is with people of like minds. It takes work to be of the same mind, but it is a pleasure to remember our Head, the Lord Jesus Christ, as the reason why we come together.
The church is supposed to be in communion speaking the truth in love (Eph 4:13-16). Every opportunity we have to celebrate that is a good day.
Tomorrow will be a good day.
We invite those in Christ to join us.Till He comes,
Justin “one of many” Johnson
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March 15, 2015 at 3:20 am #4679Sharleen AustraliaParticipant
So how do they celebrate communion? Do they have a meal together? Or is it literally just meeting together? I went to a church today and walked out before communion as just feel it is too religious and feel uncomfortable taking it and uncomfortable not taking it. Listened to a few of Justin sermon’s on it. Need to listen to them again, but I thought they met for a meal. That would make sense. What does everyone else do in their churches?
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March 15, 2015 at 2:39 pm #4684Trace INParticipant
Sharleen: If you’re asking in general: In my experience, they pass out the “bread” (some sort of tiny wafer cracker) and “wine” (grape juice) and have a Scripture reading, usually 1 Cor 11. In both Christian churches I’ve been in, there was a time of personal reflection to confess sin. Pastor Kurth doesn’t do that; he doesn’t believe in it. I recently asked him why (for I was shocked that he didn’t). He said that Christ paid it all & we should be focusing on Him & what He did, not ourselves. If you need more of his explanation, I’ll be happy to find the e-mail & copy & paste it to you.
If this isn’t what you were asking, I apologize.
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March 16, 2015 at 11:25 am #4691Linda ILParticipant
The partaking of the Lord’s Supper is a privileged memorial that the Body of Christ can enjoy and fellowship in, as it demonstrates oneness and unity in the Body of Christ. It is to be taken with an attitude of gratitude to Christ, our Head, for what He accomplished for us on the Cross. Paul rebuked the Corinthians for their dishonor and disregard for each other during this sacred occasion. They had despised the Body of Christ and brought shame to members of the Body by their actions as evident in 1 Cor. 11:20-22. We are to keep in mind His position as Head of the Body, and His coming again as we celebrate. It’s all about Christ, and isn’t it such a joy that Christ has included us in such a personal union with Him.
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March 16, 2015 at 4:00 pm #4695Sharleen AustraliaParticipant
Thanks Trace and Linda
Trace that is exactly what I was talking about. It would be good to read the email if you get the chance/time to put it up. Thanks
Linda – but just how is this done? And is it the Lord’s supper or communion. I think they could be two different things.
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March 17, 2015 at 9:40 am #4708Trace INParticipant
Sharleen: Very interesting point!!! Something I’ve never thought of; food for thought!
I’ll pull the e-mail up for you. -
March 18, 2015 at 10:14 am #4729TNT – Senior ModeratorModerator
For those who would like to study this subject, I would like to suggest I Corinthians Chapter 10 and I Corinthians chapter 11….
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March 18, 2015 at 3:24 pm #4732Linda ILParticipant
Hi ladies, Sharleen, I agree with Pastor Kurth in that Communion/The Lord’s Supper is a time to reflect on Christ and what He did for us. Remember Christ said in 1 Corinthians 11:24-25, each time He had given thanks for the bread and wine, He said “this do in remembrance of me.” We don’t need to reflect on ourselves for personal confession. We are the Body of Christ and has already been forgiven. Besides, if we need to confess something to Christ, we do that to Him and not the congregation. It is solely for remembrance on Christ and His gift to us, and also to fellowship with Christ’s Body. The Lord’s Supper and Communion is one and the same. Communion is mentioned in the 10th chapter of Corinthians, and The Lord’s Supper is mentioned in the 11th chapter. It is not the same as the Passover the Lord took with His disciples in Luke 22:14-20. The Lord’s Supper in Corinthians was a special revelation given to Paul by Christ for the Body of Christ as evident in 11:23. In the book, Basic Bible Doctrines by Donald Webb, there’s a teaching on the Doctrines of the Bible and The Lord’s Supper is one of them.
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March 18, 2015 at 3:27 pm #4733Trace INParticipant
Linda, fabulous book recommendation!
I own it/have read it & Don Webb seems pretty doctrinally sound. I’ve also had the privilege of hearing him preach & getting to know him. Great guy! Here’s here in Indiana about an hour and a half away from me and I would definitely make the effort to go hear him on a Sunday morning
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March 18, 2015 at 3:33 pm #4734Linda ILParticipant
Trace, that is the cutest picture of you and your babies.
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March 18, 2015 at 3:35 pm #4735Trace INParticipant
Thanks, Linda! That’s our church picture.
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March 18, 2015 at 3:42 pm #4736Trace INParticipant
I’m teasing Pastor Rick that he needs to let us retake the picture to include our cat. I even sent him a picture of the cat to prove he’s cute enough to be up in our showcase, LOL
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March 19, 2015 at 2:22 pm #4748Mari – AdministratorKeymaster
Yes…well…it is me and Emmie…..in the church pictures….
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March 19, 2015 at 2:28 pm #4750Mari – AdministratorKeymaster
I like Don Webb too…met him at Cedar Lake Conference.
If you do not have a church to go to….one may simply have communion at home….and it can be as often as you come together to eat! This is what the word of God says….
So, as a family, at dinner…share a bite of bread…a bit of grape juice or wine…and read the Bible verses in memory of Christ and then have your dinner. This is a wonderful thing to do as a family….the husband is the head, if he is not home, the mother…or young son or daughter! We are not priests…we are all members of the body of Christ. Interesting the freedom to have relationship with Christ…not only alone, but as members of the body of Christ…as a family….
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March 22, 2015 at 7:03 pm #4814Linda ILParticipant
To Canada, I would suggest that you purchase Webb’s book on Basic Bible Doctrines, It’s a whole chapter on The Lord’s Supper. It is a privilege to partake in this sacred occasion, however, it’s not an ordinance as the Passover was to the Jews. In 1 Corinthins 11:23, Paul said he received of the Lord, so this was a special revelation given to Paul for the Body Of Christ
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March 22, 2015 at 9:31 pm #4819Sharleen AustraliaParticipant
GR – Hello my friend. I was just reading those verses on the weekend – in church – when the sermon was letting me down and we were going to have communion and I was thinking the same thoughts as you. What is this about eating unworthy, and damnation and referring the the Lords supper? I don’t know who Don Webb is but it would be worth looking into his book. About to get a credit card with US dollars on it to take overseas (Vietnam)so can use that to buy some grace resources, as currently all sites only receive US dollars. Be so good to get some books including a hard copy of things that differ.
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